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Left lane driving: two wrongs don't make a right


The Chief of the Minnesota State Patrol says that two wrongs don't make a right when it comes to driving in the left lane. Col. Anne Beers argues that speeding in the left lane is wrong, but it's also wrong to camp there and refuse to move to the right so faster-moving traffic can pass. "We know there is aggressive behavior out on the highways. Why contribute to that?" she said. "Let someone who wants to go faster go by you and your stress stays under control." According to the article in the Star Tribune, drivers in Minnesota, USA, are not consistently moving to the right lane when possible to allow others to pass--as required by state law. Highway signs indicating "Slower traffic keep right" have not helped, and some drivers responded to a recent article by stating their objection to being pushed from behind by speeders and asking "where are the police?" One driver asked: "If I am going 70 in a 60 zone in the left-hand lane, why am I considered a 'camper'?" However, Beers said that the force has little spare time or budget to spend on speed enforcement. "At our normal staffing levels we are losing the battle." See more on this hot topic on the Drivers.com Discussion board. End of Article


Comments

Robb, on Friday, 14. July 2006 at 05:02 PM

Look, the speed limit is the speed limit. The so-called "fast lane" is the same speed limit a the "slow lane". And just because some knucklehead who's late for work can't manage his own time doiesn't mean that I will just get out of his way.

Victor, on Monday, 17. July 2006 at 10:53 AM

maybe the knucklehead is in a rush for a legitimate reason, lie a a doctor or something. Anyway, the speed limits on roads are often ridiculous. Some European back roads have speed limits higher than our big spacious north American freeways with 65 mph.

Robert, on Monday, 31. July 2006 at 12:07 AM

Robb you sound very angry......calm down. The fact of the matter is, there are signs posted all over the untied states highways that inform you how to handle a situation like this one. "Slower traffic keep right" That knucklehead may not even be late to work but who are you to decide his fate? If he wants to get a speeding ticket for driving too fast.... let him. But if you have room to move over and you choose not to do so you are also in violation of not obeying posted highway sings. After all to that driver you are the slower traffic.

Gordon, on Monday, 11. September 2006 at 09:32 PM

Robb needs some ramming tactics, the left lane is intended for passing, then returning to the right. It was intended to make traffic to flow more efficently. Robb needs to find something more constructive to do, how's about being on a vent at a local hospital's ICU; after being rammed into a armaco barier? One less egoist on the highway and life in general

Paul, on Friday, 29. December 2006 at 10:10 PM

Ok, so I've been living here in Minnesota for 2 years now. It's not a bad place. But there is one thing here that consistently drives me insane - people who drive in the left lane and go either the same speed or slower than traffic in the adjacent lanes. So, I am going to rant about this and hopefully start a movement to spread the word...

The left lane is for passing, you morons!!! Don't feel it's your responsibility to uphold the *bleeping* speed limit. If you are going 60 mph in the left lane and I come up behind you, move the *bleep* over! This is not a challenge to your ego or sub-par driving skills. It is simply someone behind you who wishes to pass. If you're going 80 mph and I feel like going 90 mph, move to the right and let me pass. I'm liable to attract that cop that would have otherwise pulled you over for yet another DWS (driving while stupid).

And for the truly retarded, when someone comes up behind you in the left lane and gives you a friendly flick of the lights:

-Do not flip me off. It's rude and unneccessary and could get you seriously killed if they happen to be a psycho prone to fits of gun-waving road rage!

-Do not slam on your brakes. I'm not sure what flavor of idiotic that maneuver is, but it's certainly one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.

-Don't make me pass you on the right! It's very unsafe and throws off the whole flow of traffic.

-Don't wait for me to pass and then get up behind me riding my ass at 85 mph flashing your lights. That's just silly.

This is simple highway courtesy and common etiquette in every other state I've ever lived in. The roads would be a faster, safer, more relaxed place if you would just MOVE THE *bleep* OVER!

sherreelee, on Wednesday, 10. January 2007 at 05:04 PM

You can pass me on the right as easily as I can move over then back. That's that. Doesn't disrupt the flow of anything but your movement.

Joe, on Tuesday, 06. February 2007 at 09:46 PM

If the whole world were to drive the 10 miles over the speed limit, the traffic on the roads will be at a dead stop.

Mike, on Sunday, 11. February 2007 at 07:22 PM

Rob and Sherreelee need to buy bus passes. They are a dangerous blend of stupidity and arrogance. I am forced to pass hundreds of mouth breathers a week as they ride the left lane with impunity.

Zach, on Friday, 30. March 2007 at 08:30 AM

Since I drive 150 miles round trip for work, I've been seeing more and more people who hold up traffic in the left lane getting pulled over for obstructing traffic. It's a pain when you're driving 75 with someone riding your tail, and then coming up to someone who is doing 5 under the speed limit in the left lane, and a line of trucks doing 60 in the right lane. But the truck part is a seperate issue.

Dan, on Friday, 30. March 2007 at 09:02 AM

I'm happy to see slow drivers in the fast lane get pulled over but there's another problem which needs to be addressed. Even if you drive fast in the fast lane there's always someone who wants to pass and go even faster.

Now suppose you're driving to work, you're in the fast lane, you're passing traffic in the slower lane to your right, do you still have to keep lane hopping so that even faster drivers can get through?

If so, does that not mean a lot of lane changing, more stress and less safety.

RichPrique, on Tuesday, 03. April 2007 at 03:06 PM

I've found getting in front of a slow-left-lane-traveler and deaccelerating (not braking), but slowing down to the point where the "mouth" breather gets frustrated works very well as a motivator to switch into the right lanes... Occasionaly it does get out of hand and you have to run them off the road and bash their brains out with a hammer... oh, sorry, just day dreaming there...

Barry, on Friday, 01. June 2007 at 12:05 AM

I have found that drivers just don't pay attention. They are on their phones, reading, changing the radio station, etc. Paying attention is the best courtesy.

Eric, on Tuesday, 05. June 2007 at 09:32 AM

All you slow ass people who think you are the "police" by driving slow in the left lane and refusing to move are ASSHOLES. Plain and simple, and then when I have to pass on the right after being behind your slow ass for miles,you then decide to move over at the same time I do (without using a signal), and almost cause an accident. Drive as slow as you want, IN THE RIGHT LANE, MORONS

Eric, on Tuesday, 05. June 2007 at 09:33 AM

Soccer Moms, Tractor Trailers, Lawn Service guys and African Americans. DRIVE SLOW IN THE RIGHT LANE AND NOT THE LEFT!!!!.

Eric, on Tuesday, 05. June 2007 at 09:38 AM

Shereelee wrote "You can pass me on the right as easily as I can move over then back. That's that. Doesn't disrupt the flow of anything but your movement." This is proof she's an idiot!!! Everyone knows passing on the right is very dangerous and causes thousands of accidents each year. Her name is as long as the line of morons who drive slow.

Eric, on Tuesday, 05. June 2007 at 09:43 AM

These morons will go slow in the left lane and then when you go to pass the speed up so you can't. YOU ARE NOT THE POLICE, I hate moron drivers.

Eric, on Tuesday, 05. June 2007 at 09:45 AM

Oh and anyone who dislikes the things I wrote, i encourage you to email me and we'll chat.

fuckslowdrivers@moveover.com

Karl, on Tuesday, 05. June 2007 at 10:34 AM

hey, I don't like slow drivers in the fast lane, but much worse are the Eric types. Psychological problem!!!!!

Karl, on Wednesday, 06. June 2007 at 03:17 PM

Hi, I'm Karl and I drive slow in the left lane with my mouth hanging open. I do it because I'm an unemployed, uneducated idiot that has nowhere to be.

Bill, on Wednesday, 06. June 2007 at 03:30 PM

Most of the offenders I see are usually either older people in Buicks or African American in Buicks, just ban Buicks from the left lane!

Ron, on Wednesday, 06. June 2007 at 03:30 PM

I agree Bill, that is so the truth

Beth, on Wednesday, 06. June 2007 at 03:31 PM

And did you notice most of the Buicks are gold in color.

Jeff, on Wednesday, 06. June 2007 at 03:33 PM

That is true but if the Buicks are not in the left lane they are usually broken down on the highway

Coca, on Wednesday, 06. June 2007 at 03:35 PM

Who was that Karl guy a few posts up? He seems very disturbed and angry. Hey Karl, it'll be OK. Just stay out of the left lane.

Fred, on Wednesday, 06. June 2007 at 03:36 PM

His Mother probably doesn't even love him. that's why he drives in the left lane, for attention.

Ann, on Wednesday, 06. June 2007 at 03:38 PM

Poor Karl better stay out of the left lane.

Al101, on Wednesday, 06. June 2007 at 04:27 PM

Karl didnt say he drives in the left lane. In fact he said he doesn't like slow drivers in the left lane. Looks like he's made his point though, judging by the reactions. Looks like racist psychos feel the left lane belongs to them. Come to New York and learn!

Rex, on Thursday, 07. June 2007 at 09:22 AM

I hate people like Al101, they can't drive worth a damn and the only response you get out of people like that is "come to NY". It wouldn't matter where I was, he still sucks ass anyway and is a pussy.

Fred, on Tuesday, 12. June 2007 at 08:54 AM

I hate slow drivers in the left lane. They hold up traffic and clog the highways

Timmy, on Tuesday, 12. June 2007 at 01:22 PM

2 wrongs don't make a right but 2 rights don't make a left either.

maryah, on Tuesday, 19. June 2007 at 09:29 AM

if u dont pay attention when u drive then you dont need to be driving.

Rush Limbaugh, on Wednesday, 20. June 2007 at 02:52 PM

I agree Liberal Democrats and slow left lane drivers SUCK

Sean Hannity, on Wednesday, 20. June 2007 at 02:52 PM

Liberal scumbag lane hogs

Gabe, on Wednesday, 20. June 2007 at 02:55 PM

They are probably going too slow in the left lane because they are trying to figure out what happened to Air America and not consentrating on driving. Or it could just be because they are working out their surrender plans for Iraq like a bunch of cowards.

Jane, on Thursday, 21. June 2007 at 04:09 PM

I hate slow drivers in the left lane, they just sit there and try and slow the traffic. MOVE OVER JACKASS

1955, on Monday, 25. June 2007 at 04:32 PM

They are driving slow in the left lane only to piss you off(HA-HA)

Jane, on Monday, 25. June 2007 at 04:37 PM

That's ok, when the piss me off I run them off the road, HAHA

Bad Driver, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 02:40 AM

I'm a bad driver, I know it, and I'm the first to admit it. But it does still piss me off when I'm trying to get somewhere and those slow ass drivers bog down traffic. I don't think they do it on purpose though. It just takes them longer to form a thought. I think they're the same group of people that will sit at a green light until it turns yellow and then finally decide to take off, or take forever slowing down to make a turn when their already going 10 mph in a 35!!!

Eric, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 08:06 AM

You are exactly correct!!!

Regular guy, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 08:44 AM

I'm doing 75 - that's 10 over the limit - in the left lane, passing a lane of slower drivers. They're doing about 65. In my rear view mirror I see mr bigshot-in-a-hurry come up behind me at about 85-90 and then tailgates. Fine, I move over and mr bigshot passes. He tailgates the car ahead. It moves over and lets mr bigshot pass. OK but now I want to get back into the passing lane but theres more mr bigshots tailgating. So now, everybody has to keep jumping lanes to accomodate mr bigshot-in-a-hurry. I don't think so. I want the cops to do their job and get these tailgating superspeeders who think they won the road!!!
PS - I've got a powerful vehicle too. I just don't choose to believe I have rights over other people.

Eric, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 09:20 AM

As you state you want to get back over in the left lane.If you want to get back in the left lane you have to keep up with the flow,so if Mr Bigshot is going 85-90 you need to do that to keep the flow and to stay in the left lane "slower traffic keep right", if you choose not to than stay in the middle lane. Common sense if you think about it because why is it you want to get back in the left lane? Because the middle isn't going fast enough for you, well, that's what we are saying about the left lane, simple.

RG, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 12:14 PM

Not so simple Eric. Mr bigshot isnt the flow. He's going way over the traffic speed and expects everybody to adjust. He doesn't own the road. maybe he doesnt' even pay taxes

Eric, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 01:05 PM

What do taxes have to do in a driving senario? The fact is the left lane is for passing, it is just as wrong for someone not to move over as it is for someone speeding. That is why you in fact move out of the middle lane and want to drive in the left 10 miles over the speed limit, because the middle lane is not moving fast enough for you. That is what we say about left, if you are not keeping up with the speed of traffic you simply need to move over, after all, speeding is speeding whether is is 10 over or 20. How can you to dictate how fast over the speed limit people should go? You can get a ticket for both. So you see, it is that simple.

Timmy, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 01:20 PM

What is wrong with regular guy? taxes???. Look even if the guy did not have a job or at worst was an illegal, they still shop at stores and pay the sales tax. Which is irrelevant to driving slow in the left lane. Just move over if someone is going faster, you are going 10 over, would you not want the guy in the middle lane to move over to the right lane? Same idea

Dave, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 01:21 PM

I'm in agreement with Eric and Timmy, just move over, it is that simple.

Jimbo, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 01:24 PM

In some states they are implementing new laws to ticket the person in the passing lane going too slow or slowing the flow of traffic.

RG, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 02:17 PM

so no speed limit?

Helmut, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 02:27 PM

In Germany on the motorways there are no speed limits except in certain areas. Drivers keep to the right of they are slower. This works very well.

FRK, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 02:29 PM

I think just about everywhere has laws about driving too slow and obstructing traffic. However, 10 mph over the limit is not slow.

Eric, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 03:37 PM

10 mph over is not slow but if someone is going 15, you need to move over. You are now the slower traffic and slower traffic must keep right.

Paul, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 03:45 PM

Hey RG, just move over if someone is traveling faster, it's not that hard.

RG, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 05:19 PM

Its not that simple either. but it looks like none of you guys get the point. Hasnt anybody taken driver ed? Traffic is not about each individual doing what they want. It's about cooperation and traffic flow.

Move over and let faster drivers pass is simple - up to a point. It gets ridiculous if everybody has to waste fuel and pollute more just because a few want to speed. Mind you, if traffic is light then slower traffic keep right of course.

thomas1, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 05:45 PM

Let me set the scene, I-94 near exit 12 in michigan, 8:00am Sunday morning. I am the only car on the road. Out of nowhere comes mr ego in his Dodge Ram 150 POS.right on my bumber, and I am in the slow lane. This crap happens all the time. I feel like a magnet for morons. Are these people born on Mars. I think heavy traffic or no traffic there are people on the road that are insecure and cannot be comfortable in there car talking on there f^#^#ing cell phone, eating there jelly filled donut if they are not trying to stuff there POS up my tail pipe. GIVE ME A BREAK

Eric, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 06:17 PM

OK, we established thomas1 has mental problems

Eric, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 06:18 PM

RG, we do get the point, it is you who seems not to. Slower traffic keep right, the end.

Mort, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 06:19 PM

Wow, RG and thomas1 do not understand, slower traffic keep right.

Sue, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 06:22 PM

See, this is why the left lane always has someone parked in it, amazing.

Frank, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 06:23 PM

Left lane is for fast, right lane is for slow, get it thomas1. good

Paul, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 06:26 PM

I find this simply amazing, rg & thomas1 are perfect examples of why the roads are the way they are. thomas1 is talking about being in the slow lane on a Sunday, eating donuts and talking on cell phones, we are talking about the left lane and people who drive slow in it.

Bill, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 06:27 PM

This is simple highway courtesy and common etiquette in every other state I've ever lived in. The roads would be a faster, safer, more relaxed place if you would just MOVE THE *bleep* OVER!

Robert, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 06:32 PM

thomas1, there are signs posted all over the untied states highways that inform you how to handle a situation like this one. "Slower traffic keep right" who are you to decide his someone's fate? If he wants to get a speeding ticket for driving too fast.... let him. But if you have room to move over and you choose not to do so you are also in violation of not obeying posted highway sings. After all to that driver you are the slower traffic.

Richprique, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 06:34 PM

I've found getting in front of a slow-left-lane-traveler and deaccelerating (not braking), but slowing down to the point where the "mouth" breather gets frustrated works very well as a motivator to switch into the right lanes...

Yao, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 06:56 PM

I also have been reading about left lane drivers that drive too slow, and in most cases thomas is cause, people like him just don't get it

RG, on Thursday, 28. June 2007 at 11:22 PM

It seems to be impossible to get through to most of the people above. This is NOT about slow drivers eating or applying makeup or on the phone in the left lane. There's no disagreement on that. It's about the people who want to pass YOU (robert, yao, Bill, etc.). You want to go fast. They want to go faster. So what's allowable?

Let's say there's two lanes. Traffic is heavy. You and all the others (Bill, Robert, Etc.) are driving in the left lane and you are driving at the speed of traffic. You are continouously overtaking the right lane traffic which is heavy also.

Now someone comes up behind and wants every body in the left lane to push over into the right lane just so they can go faster than everyone else.

Sound like you all would agree that you should all move over, despite the fact that this makes traffic very disruptive and stressful for everyone, makes it less safe, and wastes fuel.

The entire highway has to make way for this one driver?

Yao, on Friday, 29. June 2007 at 12:11 AM

But see i agree with you, if someone wants to go faster than me, I would move over. That is our point. Slower traffic keep right. But you make it as if 1 driver is going to want to go faster, when in fact most of the left lane wants to faster, but you have the one or two that makes us slow don't. It is us who is trying to get through to you. it seems you are just stubborn and want eeryone to go at your speed, when in fact you say you speed yourself (10 miles over) but who are you to say that's as fast as we should go, what if i say 15?

RG, on Friday, 29. June 2007 at 12:58 AM

Yao you say you agree with me but you still go back to this image of me going slow in the left lane.

Take a look at the example I gave you and think about it. I said -

"The entire highway has to make way for this one driver? "

What's your response?

Yao, on Friday, 29. June 2007 at 08:10 AM

Again you go backto it being one driver.I am telling you most left lane drivers would be going alot faster if the ones going slower (not slow) would move. then you would have the left lane moving really fast, center lane would be moving about 10 over and the rest in the right lane, wouldn't that be nice! it's called a perfect flow of traffic.

RG, on Friday, 29. June 2007 at 09:02 AM

Yao, OK we're both after the perfect flow. But the example I gave above was a two-lane situation (and I have a particular one near where I live in mind). So for the sake of simplicity let's leave the center lane idea out.

Lots of drivers go to the left lane because they want to go as fast as possible, but there have to be some limits (not necessarily the official speed limit which most ignore in this case).

Most drivers will speed but only so much because they can't afford to get caught too often. Usually the left lane is 10-15 over the limit and about that much faster than the right lane.

OK, now someone comes along that wants to go 20 - 25 over the limit. Fine, if traffic is light I'll move over. But if Im busy passing other cars I'm not going hit the brakes, slow to right lane speed and then accelerate again. The fast guy will have to wait on his opportunity!

A perfect flow of traffic has to have some kind of limitations on speed.

I'm trying to get people like Robert, Bill, etc. to think about that.

Yao, on Friday, 29. June 2007 at 09:12 AM

In that senario I do see your point completely and do agree as well.

Bill, on Friday, 29. June 2007 at 09:14 AM

Hey RG, good argument, in that particular case i would also agree.

Cyber AL, on Friday, 29. June 2007 at 01:34 PM

We may not have to worry about this much in the future, what with balck boxes in cars and gps tracking. I hear the latest is that all cars will have GPS by 2010 and that means they can tell where eveyone is and also how fast we are going.

????????????????????, on Friday, 29. June 2007 at 03:27 PM

Thomas has issues

BGR, on Friday, 29. June 2007 at 03:34 PM

Thomas, you've got one life (maybe). Get psychological help before its too late

thomas1, on Saturday, 30. June 2007 at 03:19 PM

It is you who needs the help BGR

RG, on Monday, 02. July 2007 at 10:23 PM

I see someone has hijacked by username above to place their own message. Looks like this whole comment thread is being hijacked by one very immature (or worse) individual).

With a few exceptions of intelligent comments above his whole issue of "slow" drivers in the left lane seems to pull in comments from people who have nothign to offer except the same mantra, regardless of what is being discussed.

Vincent, on Friday, 06. July 2007 at 10:02 PM

Looks like people lose their cool over this left lane issue. Where I come from the speed limit is strictly enforced on the freeways. In the left lane very few go more than about 10-15 mph over the limit. On the right, people are usually doing the limit or slower. There are very few angry drivers in evidence.

Brandon, on Tuesday, 10. July 2007 at 06:00 PM

What pisses me off is people who feel the need to block traffic and pass even though they are going only a few miles an hour faster. If your not going at least 85 keep right... and if you pass, check your mirrors. Dont just glance because you cant tell how fast someone is going unless you are actually paying attention. Let the faster traffic pass first.

Bliss, on Wednesday, 11. July 2007 at 11:00 AM

For those that dont know, Driving is a privadge not a right or constitutional right, Otherwise you wouldnt need a driverslicense and the police couldnt uphold speeding tickets what so ever.

Try to be human, Polite and courtious, Step aside and let the more eger pass like those at the checkout line that let you pass bebecuse you only have one item and they didnt have to at all, But they choose to.
Think about the old lady in the comercial as you look down at your speed-O and think your going fast enough as the person creeps up behind you in the left lane, Please put your arrogance into the back of your mind and "Please step aside"

Pay attention, Dont become part of the "Sleeper Blockade" (Coma-tosted drivers who pace slower moving vehicals to the right) wake up, Your the one who is the danger on the road because your not paying attention to what your doing and putting others and me in danger (even driving slow).

False, Speed waste gas, This is not true, All cars run different at different speed and do get better gasmilage at higher speeds, Also I buy my own gas and will waste is as I choose (That is a right).

Celphone users, Is your life not worth waiting a few min or pulling off to the side of the road.
Some states as like mine have banned cellphone use while driving.

Please dont worry about the person changing his tire on the side of the road or the accident, Its none of your business, Wait till you get home and turn on cable tv if you need see blood.

Im not even from Minn, Im from So. California, We have more cars on the road then 45 states have people, So we like to cruise when its not bumper to bumper.

Thanks people.
Remember, Be human, Lets all advance in life with grace and ease.

FBI, on Wednesday, 11. July 2007 at 08:42 PM

What we need is photo-radar and strict enforcement of speed limits everywhere. Of course the speed limits should be realistic and in many places they are not.

1955, on Friday, 13. July 2007 at 05:03 PM

Bliss, urwetodddid!!! Your theories may work in California, but try them in New Jersey, New York or Southeast Michigan.Get your money back for your schooling. And if your saying to your self "that jackass has never drove in L.A. how would he know?" Wrong just got back from So Cal, one of the easiest places to drive on earth if you enjoy being gridlocked on I-5. Sounds like your just a frustrated baby who cant drive as fast as he wants and blames it on everyone else. Where all great drivers just ask. And for you Mr FBI they might as well take speed limit, stop sign,no U turn, slow traffic keep right signs down and sell them for scrap metal

Connie, on Friday, 13. July 2007 at 10:09 PM

There's an awful lot of self-serving stuff in the comments above.

It's all about getting along!

If FBI has his (her) way big daddy will control all. On the other hand who wants to live with macho jerks who just don't get what traffic is all about and just want everyone to get out of their way just because there in a hurry.

Doug, on Tuesday, 24. July 2007 at 07:06 AM

I totally reject the claim that drivers who are driving the speed limit should stay out of the left lane so speeders can pass. There are times when a driver has to be in the left lane, in order to make a left turn. Should people who don't speed be prohibited from making left turns? That would be the consequence if everyone did what the Chief of the Minnesota State Patrol says we should do.

Janice W. Ratliff, on Tuesday, 14. August 2007 at 02:18 PM

I have an ongoing "argument" with my husband about this.....if you are in a neighborhood and there are four lanes (2 each direction) do you still consider the left lane for passing? I completely disagree. I feel like that rule applies for highway or divided highways, but not neighborhood roads with 25-30 mph limits. Please help end this 20 year old battle.

Nightmare, on Tuesday, 25. September 2007 at 09:59 PM

Well for my 2 cents on this whole mess you guys re calling a "discussion." You can sum up the next few paragraphs in 3 words: "I don't care." The people who want others to move over want them to move over because the law that the slow driver is breaking, is getting in the way of the law that the faster driver is breaking. So either way, the law is being broken.

Basically every driver on the road just doesn't give a rats ass about what other drivers want. All I see on the road are a bunch of babies... if they don't get what they want they throw a tantrum. All this discussion has consisted of is crying and complaining that slower drivers need to move out of the way because otherwise the faster drivers won't get their way. There were a few actual mature people discussing, but they were clearly outnumbered by the ones who gripe and complain about people actually obeying the law.

As for me, I just get out of the way when possible to let the speeders go by so they can annoy someone else with their tailgating and impatience. If they want to endanger others and cause accidents, then fine. They are the ones who have to live with it, not me. I just drive to get where I'm going... not to make drivers get out of my way because they happen to be actually obeying the law. Then again, why should they care what you want? You obviously don't care what they want since you are focusing all your attention on how to get them out of your way.

Anyway, I will not be back to this comment board. So anyone taking my name know that I will not be back. If anyone does respond to this... I'll be extremely surprised if it doesn't involve name calling of some sort.

Al, on Friday, 28. September 2007 at 04:36 AM

Now there is even a song for truck drivers called "Keep Right"

Check out the music video on youtube by entering "Keep Right" or here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McJ4Yy5ZNeU

Remember to Keep Right

Traveling Dave, on Monday, 01. October 2007 at 07:45 PM

I love to drive in the left lane at the speed limit. I know it pisses off the people who want to drive faster but that's why I stay in the left lane. I love to piss off all of the assholes that somehow think that they are free to break the law and endanger others on the road. So, if you drive up behind a black Expedition in the left lane that's driving the speed limit, please feel free to flash your lights or wave the bird at me. If you don't, I'll be disappointed.

Prettybored, on Wednesday, 10. October 2007 at 06:52 PM

Wow...still 15 and still finding adults online who don't even know each other acting more like middle school kids than adults...Oh the wonders I will have on the road...*Note the obvious sarcasm*

The Duke, on Sunday, 14. October 2007 at 05:30 PM

After reading the above comments I realize why we have so many accidents,actually most are not accidents at all they are caused by people driving to fast and by people driving to slow,if we all obeyed the posted speed limit we would all be a lot safer and happier after all isn't that why there is a speed limit,mind you I do agree that the powers to be have posted some roads way to low and others way to high.but a good example of left lane driving is on the two lane interstate highways in California where the cars can drive 70 mph but the trucks can only drive 55 I do not understand the logic of this,it makes for a very dangerous situation,I am driving 70 to 75 {I never drive more than 5 over}when a car comes up behind wanting to pass,I do not want to block him but how can I move over without endangering my life?there are trucks in the right lane doing 55 I pull in between them braking hard to reduce to 55mph,I have now really upset the truck driver I pulled in front of making him have to brake,the speeder has gone by but all the traffic in the left lane are doing 70 plus and I can't get back out,this is one of the main reasons why people stay in the left lane,I never stay in the left lane as long as the right lane is clear so I can drive the speed limit in it,but if it means I have to stay in the left lane because of the trucks so be it,the guy behind needs to be patient till I can find a place safe enough to pull over and let him by,but I am damned if I am going to speed up to his speed and risk a ticket or worse just to make him or her happy,by the way I have never had an accident or a ticket and I have been driving professionally for 50 years.so calm down none of us own the road be patient getting there safe is more important than getting there fast.

Dano, on Tuesday, 23. October 2007 at 04:02 PM

There is a reason why the posted speed limit is lower than what most people feel comfortable driving at. That reason is because when the government decides to set a speed limit they have to make it conform to the people in society with the lowest intelligence and slow reaction time. (Such as our friend Traveling Dave). This I can understand, it's not someone’s fault if they are not as smart as other people. Most people that do drive slower for whatever reason (not all lack intelligence, some may have kids in the car or are just on a leisurely drive) are courteous enough to move over one lane for someone traveling at a higher rate of speed. The few that think that they have the authority to deicide what speed is fast enough for me to drive are just ignorant. But being ignorant and being stupid are two different things. People like, hmmm, let's say Traveling Dave for example are both ignorant and stupid and can't comprehend how someone can drive 20-25 over the speed limit. To him we are reckless and have no concern for other drivers on the road when in reality we do. We are just comfortable at that rate of speed because
1.We may have more road experience
2.We are more confident behind the wheel.
3. Higher intelligence = reaction speed.
So for those of you that are so quick to criticize speeders or classify them as careless and reckless this is just because you can't comprehend driving at that speed because you lack either, confidence, skill or intelligence along with quick reactions. You may think I’m driving too fast, but that is just because you are dumb or ignorant. I’m not going to drive slower than what I feel comfortable driving at because we have the speed limit set so low just for the dumbest people in society. Because these people mentally can’t handle higher rates of speed than what is posted. If I get a ticket, it’s my problem (the radar detector helps me with that). I know you ignorant people are doing this to get you point across, that you think whatever speed your driving is fast enough and no one else should drive any faster. I also realize that you ignorant people won’t move and I won’t make an issue of it. I’ll just pass you using the right lane. It makes it more fun for me (I don’t mind weaving if I have to). Then I’ll purposely cut you off and if the mood strikes me right (and I have done it before) I’ll toss my cup of coffee or can of pop out the window aimed at your windshield (and I am a good shot, 5 for 6 so far). But only if there is not a lot of traffic behind you because unlike you I don’t want to endanger anyone else’s life to get my point across…….Just yours.

ptschett, on Tuesday, 20. November 2007 at 09:07 PM

I'm reminded of the guy I encountered the other day on the interstate. They were camping in the left lane after the right lane was cleared, but when I went right to pass (legal in that jurisdiction) they sped up to catch up to a vehicle in the right lane. A mile later the right lane car exited, and since this oddball was still slower than me and still in the left lane I went around on the right and was on my way.

10 miles later, I caught up to a 6-8 car knot of traffic where the faster folks were gradually working their way around a 65 mph minivan. This guy comes up on the traffic group fast enough in the right lane that one of the right lane cars bails to the shoulder. It didn't get him much, the slowest right lane car wasn't going anywhere.

After a few miles we hit a 10-mile stretch with no exits, and the roadway clears so it's me in the right lane, the other guy in the left, and a slower car 1/8 mile ahead of me. I wait in the right lane thinking this other guy has simply decided he wants to go faster so I stay right to let him go.

Does he pass the slower car? No. He decelerates more than 10 mph so he's locked on to the side of the slow car.

A few more miles and a horn honk later, we're catching a semi that's even slower than the joker and his unfortunate roadblock partner (the right lane slow car's driver tried to speed up and get away, even, but just had a little econo car so they didn't have much luck.) The joker stays left and speeds up to get around, then backs off again after the slower traffic is dispensed with. I have to pass on the right yet again, and I use the acceleration my V8 has over the V6 he had at best.

I back off to the speed I want to be going, the joker blows by, and then he finds another victim about when we reach the "next exit 2 miles" sign so I can finally use the play I've been planning. I stay right and act like I'm just hanging out over there, then take the exit that the joker can't access because he's blocked himself into in the left lane.

Thomas Feerick, on Monday, 26. November 2007 at 03:08 AM

I remember one incident when driving through Asheville, NC, on I-40. I'm in the right lane, doing 73 in a 65 mph zone, and I approach a group of four semi-trucks in front of me. I get in the left lane, and out of all the things in the world some asswipe in a Honda Civic was cruising right beside these trucks, and the road in front of them was wide open for at least a mile. At first I just staid back, but after a minute I started to get irritated. I flashed my lights and honked my horn a few times, but this idiot did nothing. I had a bunch of cars behind me, riding my ass, and the road was only two lanes wide, so I was stuck. This asshole brake-checked me a couple of times, because they thought I was too close (the closest I got was one car length behind them). It took me twenty minutes to pass these trucks all because of this goddamn idiot. When I finally passed the trucks, I passed her on the right, and it was some woman in her 30s. Stupid bitch gave me the finger, and I gave her one right back. Without a doubt one of the stupidest drivers I have ever seen, as she had traffic backed up like a motherfucker.

Thomas Feerick, on Monday, 26. November 2007 at 10:51 PM

I'm back, and I've got a couple of things to say. For people who sit in the left lane and hold up other drivers, I have a question: who gave you the right to decide someone else's speed? The answer: no one. If someone wants to speed and get a speeding ticket, then that is their problem, not yours. People sitting in the left lane is one of the top causes of road rage and wrecks on US interstates, so if you sit in the left lane than you are every bit as ignorant and stupid as people who speed and tailgate others who sit in the left lane. Oh and for those who say that people who always drive over the speed limit are extremely dangerous to other drivers I have this say: The autobahn in Germany is the safest highway/interstate system in the world, and look how fast people drive on it. The reason for this is that getting a license over there is far more difficult than getting one in the US, and they receive training that is a hundred times better than what we receive. Thus people know the rules of the road extremely well in Germany, and they are trained to handle a car well at high speeds. Not all Germans are the greatest drivers in the world, but they can drive a hell of a lot better than most Americans can. I don't mean to offend anyone with this, but I know this all from experience as I lived in Dresden, Germany for two months, and rode (not drove) on the Autobahn with a friend.

Jeff Geiger, on Monday, 03. March 2008 at 12:15 PM

Driving fast in not inherently reckless driving and does not pose an inherent danger. Reckless driving is when you do not use your indicator to change lanes, when you tailgate the driver in front of you, when you drive under the influence of drugs and alcohol, and when you focus more attention on a phone call than the road. And yes, reckless driving is when you are in the left lane and are not passing anyone, or when you are passing in the right lane. We as motorists are not police officers, and we do not enforce the speed limits. If you are in the left lane and someone comes up behind you going faster, you move to the right lane and let them pass. Period. You should not be in the left lane in the first place unless you are passing. Period. Instead of police being stationed on the side of the road waiting for “speeders”, I would rather see police genuinely reducing traffic hazards and keeping the roads safer by giving tickets to those people who truly drive recklessly by not using their indicator to change lanes, by tailgating the driver in front of them, by driving under the influence of drugs and alcohol, and by focusing more attention on a phone call than the road. Having police sit on the side of the road waiting for “speeders” is a misallocation of resources and does not make us any safer. In terms of the “revenue” argument, the police could bring in much more revenue to state coffers by penalizing the types of drivers I outlined above.

Mark, on Friday, 04. April 2008 at 10:53 PM

Hi guys just though I would drop in and add my 2 cents. Slow drivers in the left lane are a pet peeve on mine. They hold up traffic and need to be taken off the road. Thanks but you all really make me mad.

Mark
marknagle501@btinternet.com

Fast Drivers Suck #1, on Friday, 02. May 2008 at 02:32 PM

I want to relay two incedents to you guys who think people soeeding in the fast lane and acting aggressive towards slower drivers is right --an incident yesterday on my way to the doctor;s office and an accident I witnessed and was almost involved in here Southern California this morning.

Fast Drivers SUck #2, on Friday, 02. May 2008 at 02:35 PM

I drive a freeway the has two lanes. I routinely drive 75mpg on this road, though the speed limit is 60mpg. I don't "camp out" in the fast lane, but I am always driving faster than the poeple in the right lane. I often have no space to get over to the right when a giant jerk in a giant truck comes up behind me, tailgates me and flashes his brights, pretending to ram me. I can't get over! The right lane is filled with cars all in a row for a couple of miles with no space to get over. When I finally have the chance to get over, I put on my blinker to indicate to Mr. Aggressive behind me that I will be getting over to the right. Instead of allowing me to do that, he screeches over to the right lane and then proceeds to honk his horn, yell at me out his window and start to push me over into the median. It is not the first time someone has done this to me or another car on this particular freeway. The thing about yesterday is I even speed up to 85mpg to try to get this guy to back off and that didn't even help. That's 25mpg OVER the speed limit and an incredibly dangerous speed in my estimation. The other scary thing was, this guy almost succeeded in pushing me into the cement barrier and I was only saved from being crushed by braking and going into the dirt median which luckily came up about a 1/2mile after he started trying to kill me. I was so shaken, I sat there. I am not paranoid or unreasonable. Another car even pulled over behind me to tell me he saw what happened and got the truck's license plate. He said I should call the police and report an assault with a deadly weapon becasue the guy seemed hell bent on running me off the road or killing me.

The second incident occured this mornign on the same freeway, albeit going the other way. I was driving in the left lane and was just getting ready to get over to the right to exit the freeway in a couple of miles. A truck came up behind me in the right lane going at least 90mpg (I was going 75). He swerved over into the left lane and proceeded to tailgate the guy in front of him who was going about my speed. The truck then started to pretend like he was goig gto ram the car in front of him -- alternately slowing down and speeding up while be less than 15 feet behind the car, very little room to correct for the error. There was no longer anyone on the right and the black car in front turned on it signal and started to come ove into the lane in front of me. Instead of allowing the car to get into the right lane, the truck swerved over into it and then back over into the left lane, without even clearing the car. He clipped the black car, the car went completely across the 20ft dirt median, into oncoming traffic, was t-boned by two other cars and then flipped over onto its roof trapping the driver inthe car. This all occurred in less than 30 seconds, not enough time for someone justify gettign frustrated by a slow driver. The truck speed off. I followed the guy to his work, wrote down and took a picture of his license plate, him getting out of his car, him walking into his work and the damage on the front of his car. I then drove back to the scene of the accident and told the police what i witnessed and showed them my pictures. They took my statement and told me they would be contacting me later to either look at a photo array or line-up or both of the guy who was in the truck.

All-in-all, four people were taken to the hospital, including a baby with head and spinal injuries. The driver of the black car that flipped onto it's roof died at the scene. He was dead as they pulled him out of the car after having to use the sawzall to get him out.

He wasn't being passive agressive or trying to piss anyone off. He was the victim of a person much like most of those I have seen arrogantly talking about their entitlement to driving fast on this forum. You are the jerks and morons, not the slower drivers and your actions kill.

SLOW DRIVERS SUCK1, on Tuesday, 03. June 2008 at 09:38 PM

You suck really bad.

SLOW DRIVERS SUCK, on Wednesday, 04. June 2008 at 04:22 PM

To thlong winded guy who drives slow in the left lane, you are truly a loser.

union jack, on Thursday, 31. July 2008 at 12:24 AM

Hey its obvious what the problem is. You American morons don't have enough LANES. Two and three lane highways were fine when the population was 180 million people but now you have 300 million but the same number of LANES. Build more LANES!!!

Complexe, on Sunday, 17. August 2008 at 09:36 AM

The way I see it, drivers don't use simple skills and focus when driving. First, the LEFT IS FOR FASTER CARS TO PASS, PERIOD. (Yes, I am yelling...)

Your attention should be on the road at all times, so no faster approaching car should come as a surprise to you! Left lane squatters complaining about that speeder out of nowhere probably didn't see the person approach since they RARELY check their mirrors.

Proper road focus means checking all of your mirrors, blind spots and other lanes every few seconds because road conditions can change even faster. A good driver employs strategy and anticipates a course of action- including having to bail off the road if necessary- leaving him or herself enough latitude to change course.

Another piece of the puzzle is having a WELL-MAINTAINED CAR! I think a lot of people slack on service and don't have confidence in their car's performance causing more lane squatting,
"car babying", afraid to change lanes, etc. I ALWAYS make sure my car is on-point! Frankly, I'd rather not be disfigured in a preventable accident; spend the $ on your tires, good windshield wipers, brakes and an oil change dammit!

Some say lane squatting it's racial/ ethnic, but I say not so much, unless the person is obviously new to the US. Usually it's the entitled type of driver who feels entitled to left lane squat since they are a: soccer parent on the cell/ mini-van/ kids on board/ nice or fast car envious/ those with lazy driving habits/self-appointed traffic cop. I'm an African-American woman, and you can best believe I drive with more skill and courtesy than most.

I do find people assume driving a newer, luxury sports car automatically equals arrogance and then they make conscious effort to "police" when I try to pass. I've had people doing approx 53-59mph in the left lane on a 65 highway mouth "Slow dowwwwnnnnn" when I'm trying to pass..lol; I've been called names, gotten flipped off, blocked, etc. Soccer moms and older uptights are the worst.

Mainly, I think slow/ uninformed drivers don't really know how to drive but assume their driving skill/ habits are the standard for everyone, so anyone not conforming is wrong or illegal. Funny, I can always tell another really good driver since invariably he or she will "mirror" my moves, kind of partnering up to get through traffic.

Yet, I'm always happy to accomodate. Other cars are faster, I move. Traffic down the road, I strategize. Always signal, never ride the brake, let people in etc. Self-impose a speed I won't exceed - it's 85 depending on the road. Anything over that is too much on a US road.

Speed can kill, but poor driving habits-not knowing how traffic "works"- and poor defensive skills kill much more. So again, left lane squatters, please stop being so smug, aggressive and self-righteous, your self-absorbed choices can kill just as easily as passing and speed.

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